Friday, April 22, 2005
SIP declared dead - a requiem
After I already noted that the SIP developers have been seriously infected be the bellheads disease, SIP has finally been declared dead by Telepocalypse:
SIP is history as far as the future of voice is concerned. Get over it. The Vob is dead. Shuffled off to join the big pile of dead over-complex standards. DCE, CORBA — please make some space between you, we’ve got company tonight.
May I add B-ISDN, OSI (X.400), H.323, INAP, BICC,...
Aswath is holding the requiem with citing from the poem The Bull.
And he ends:
May I add the very sad last verse:
PS: Watch Out
There are still some zombies around, namely the living dead from 3GPP, ETSI TISPAN, ATIS, ... specifying currently SIP on steroids: the IP Multimedia System (IMS).
SIP is history as far as the future of voice is concerned. Get over it. The Vob is dead. Shuffled off to join the big pile of dead over-complex standards. DCE, CORBA — please make some space between you, we’ve got company tonight.
May I add B-ISDN, OSI (X.400), H.323, INAP, BICC,...
Aswath is holding the requiem with citing from the poem The Bull.
And he ends:
Pity him, this dupe of dream,And it is being replaced by another young bull, the “iPod of VoIP”, Skype.
Leader of the herd again
Only in his daft old brain,
Once again the bull supreme
And bull enough to bear the part
Only in his tameless heart.
May I add the very sad last verse:
- And the dreamer turns away
- From his visionary herds
- And his splendid yesterday,
- Turns to meet the loathly birds
- Flocking round him from the skies,
- Waiting for the flesh that dies.
PS: Watch Out
There are still some zombies around, namely the living dead from 3GPP, ETSI TISPAN, ATIS, ... specifying currently SIP on steroids: the IP Multimedia System (IMS).
Comments:
I am not sure whether I meant to write a requiem for SIP, but it was certainly to be an advice for the young bull. There was a time when H.323 was dumped because it was bellheaded; now it is SIP's turn to get the same label. The interesting thing to observe is that Skype apologists are suggesting that Skype will vanquish everything else. How more bellheaded can one be?
Aswath
Aswath
Those that think that Skype is set to take over the communications world lack perspective. VoIP isn't just about two people having a conversation using their PCs and the Internet. VoIP is about convergence of networks, ROI, cost savings and feature/service enhancements. SIP, like H.323, MGCP and other open standards based protocols, facilitates VoIP's promises. It enables much more than line side communication and messaging. SIP can enable call centers, call trunking and interoperability to systems such as voicemail and voice application systems. Skype does what it does very well. I use it. I like it. It's not about to replace SIP. Enough with the Skype hype.
SIP "promises" to faciliate all the nice things you talk about, but the only real open standards based implementations I saw up to now are similar, but inferior to Skype, or POTSoIP. All really nice things e.g call centers, or the MS RTC are also propriatory, see also http://www.telepocalypse.net/archives/000668.html
A user does not care if a network operator is using ISDN, SS7, H323, MGCP or SIP within is networks or to interoperate with other operators. Skype also uses SIP to interwork with operators.
The basic question is (and I have no answer to this yet), will the user decide to use a NETWORK operator to communicate (the 3GPP/IMS approach) or will he use a VIRTUAL operator approach independant of access and transport like Vonage, Skype, sipgate, fwd, etc.
The problem here with SIP is that ALL of the network operators and most of the virtual operators (e.g Vonage) do not provide you with an SIP URI reachable on the Internet.
You can only reach the users in the same network on the Internet, or the users you operator decides to peer with.
Since they do this on a bilateral basis to keep their termination charges alive, this is very restricted.
So what is the difference or advantage of Skype? Nothing, except it is already the biggest network, so Metcalfe's law applies.
The SIP providers missed this because of their greediness
A user does not care if a network operator is using ISDN, SS7, H323, MGCP or SIP within is networks or to interoperate with other operators. Skype also uses SIP to interwork with operators.
The basic question is (and I have no answer to this yet), will the user decide to use a NETWORK operator to communicate (the 3GPP/IMS approach) or will he use a VIRTUAL operator approach independant of access and transport like Vonage, Skype, sipgate, fwd, etc.
The problem here with SIP is that ALL of the network operators and most of the virtual operators (e.g Vonage) do not provide you with an SIP URI reachable on the Internet.
You can only reach the users in the same network on the Internet, or the users you operator decides to peer with.
Since they do this on a bilateral basis to keep their termination charges alive, this is very restricted.
So what is the difference or advantage of Skype? Nothing, except it is already the biggest network, so Metcalfe's law applies.
The SIP providers missed this because of their greediness
I use VoIP (Skype and other programs) for long time. I haven't got any problems.
My friend is using VoIP (not by internet) and there was problems. Meaby this blog will help him. Good job.
My friend is using VoIP (not by internet) and there was problems. Meaby this blog will help him. Good job.
I am not sure whether I meant to write a requiem for SIP, but it was certainly to be an advice for the young bull. There was a time when H.323 was dumped because it was bellheaded; now it is SIP's turn to get the same label.
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